Buddhism is too anti-Cosmic for me

Lord Dontgivafokk

but it got pretty cool in Zen

based john 11

how so?

Lord Dontgivafokk

im the anti-Buddha

based john 11

it talks about infinite worlds, infinite beings

Lord Dontgivafokk

certainly

Lord Dontgivafokk

it has that

Sp00kalypse

White Scars are my thing

Sp00kalypse

vroom vroom. Fast attaq

Lord Dontgivafokk

Lord Dontgivafokk

in the grim dark future of Trumpianity there is only WAR

brainsturbator

and mechsuit maintenance is hella expensive

Lord Dontgivafokk

hahaha

Lord Dontgivafokk

john: Buddhism typically strives to kill off your connection to the world, you see this very well in that Gautama left his family

Lord Dontgivafokk

that´s why the hardcore buddhist typically live in monasteries

Lord Dontgivafokk

secluded, no families

Lord Dontgivafokk

the opposite of that is like Islam, where they got a number of wives and a dozen babies

Lord Dontgivafokk

i know its pop to hate on Islam, but they´re replacing us somewhat

Lord Dontgivafokk

i don´t care about Arabic, but their system works in that sense

Lord Dontgivafokk

japan made a synthesis of buddhism and expansion tho

Lord Dontgivafokk

but the got blown

Eric Patton▲☉♇

most esoteric traditions are built around isolating individuals from society

Eric Patton▲☉♇

see also: sufi mystics

Sp00kalypse

I don’t think it works that well. Saudi Arabia is bound to experience a sociocultural crissis at some point. They have all this power to acquire pleasure that are just flat out normal in the west, not even outright degenerate.

Lord Dontgivafokk

that´s Axis Age stuff

Eric Patton▲☉♇

big difference between normals and people who go the spiritual explorer route

Lord Dontgivafokk

there´s also esoterics who have families like in Rome before Christianity

Lord Dontgivafokk

and Germanics before Christianity

Eric Patton▲☉♇

Some modern schools are attempting to unite daily life with practice, but it’s a new thing considering how long esoteric traditions drag on

Sp00kalypse

That’s a huge task

Sp00kalypse

Human society is based on codependance for mundane needs

Eric Patton▲☉♇

the “isolate yourself from the world” angle is being taken out of schools over the long term though. But you don’t need to copy geopol of Islam to mget that.

Lord Dontgivafokk

the father was the priest of the family before Christianity divorced that role to wifeless “fathers”

Lord Dontgivafokk

emperor of rome was the pope of their religion

Sp00kalypse

Pharaos were living gods

Sp00kalypse

Demigods whatever

Lord Dontgivafokk

pontifex maximus, which the christian pope took as a title after the divorce of christianity from the empire

Sp00kalypse

Like the chinese emperors

Lord Dontgivafokk

right

Eric Patton▲☉♇

Kings also

Eric Patton▲☉♇

divine right

Lord Dontgivafokk

yes

Sp00kalypse

Yep

Lord Dontgivafokk

funny thing is, this gets restored in WarHammer 40.000

Sp00kalypse

In spite of the emprah’s wishes

Lord Dontgivafokk

we get a human (mainly white) empire with an imperial religion

Lord Dontgivafokk

where the church is a part of the empire, not outside of it like started happening in the west 1500 years ago

Lord Dontgivafokk

there happened a schizm, a dualism of powers that were previously united

Lord Dontgivafokk

which caused the modern schizophrenia of spirituality was something divorced from, as it were, daily life

Lord Dontgivafokk

schizophrenia means etymologically ‘split mindedness’

Lord Dontgivafokk

christianity has always been quite manichean

Eric Patton▲☉♇

king/emperor/pharoah was the midpoint between heaven and earthly affairs, more so than priests or astrologers

Lord Dontgivafokk

yeah

Lord Dontgivafokk

he was the high priest, above the mere priests

Lord Dontgivafokk

but also the chief warrior

Lord Dontgivafokk

& lawmaker

Sp00kalypse

So he was Warrior, poet and priest

Sp00kalypse

A full statesman

Sp00kalypse

Multiclass

Lord Dontgivafokk

right, but the priesthood got lost in the late roman empire

Lord Dontgivafokk

and then replaced by christian priests

Lord Dontgivafokk

who soon started vieing for power against the empire

Lord Dontgivafokk

so it was like a betrayal

Lord Dontgivafokk

the first schizm

Lord Dontgivafokk

then the church itself split

Lord Dontgivafokk

and split again

Lord Dontgivafokk

and again

Lord Dontgivafokk

and now we have 10.000.000 churches all saying they´re the right church of the world

Lord Dontgivafokk

it´s tracable via cladaistics

Lord Dontgivafokk

first there´s church of rome, which becomes catholicism, which splits into catholicism and orthodox, catholicism splits into catholicism and protestantism, orthodox splits into number of different orthodox, protestantism splits into this and that, which comes down to Jehovas, Mormons, and you know the rest

Lord Dontgivafokk

while in Rome, pagan Rome, there was simply one priesthood of the state

Sp00kalypse

The word became atomized

Lord Dontgivafokk

right

Sp00kalypse

And no longer with God…

Sp00kalypse

Interesting

Lord Dontgivafokk

right this all splits into trillion atheist branches

Lord Dontgivafokk

godless communists

Sp00kalypse

This is reminding me of the Tower of babel

Sp00kalypse

Powerful revelation

Sp00kalypse

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Lord Dontgivafokk

the utopianism starts with cults like gnostic cults

Lord Dontgivafokk

yeah

Lord Dontgivafokk

ein volk, ein reich, ein emperor!

Sp00kalypse

Kek

Sp00kalypse

Poast beakies

Lord Dontgivafokk
 lol

In general, it seems that true civilizations develop once Aryan, nomadic, “solar”, patriarchal, egalitarian, creative races meet with local, Chtonic, “lunar”, matriarchal, hierarchical races, as it did in India (with the local Dravidian element), in Europe (with the native Alpine and Etruscan elements) and even in China (with the Tocharians “fertilizing” the Chinese culture, brining them the horse and other innovations).

The Aryans have a high sense of organization, morality and of the rule of law, while the Chtonic races have more intuition, art of living and more connection to the earthy, practical side of life. Neither of the two types of races is perfect in itself. It is when they meet that we see brilliant civilizations appearing, it seems.

We notice for instance that when a culture is purely Aryan, there are no sculptures, sophisticated temples, big cities, etc. Only war and commercial trade (the British in the Modern Age are an example of this). The Aryan does not bother with embellishing his surrounding and settings things in stone. He’s always on the move.

When a culture is purely Chtonic on the other hand, then the whole society is based on social status, hierarchy, nepotism and there is little curiosity to expand one’s horizons, to learn from others or to evolve in any way (that’s how most of the world is). There is little space nor incentive for the development of new technologies. People live off the land, or steal from each other (as in the deserts of the Middle East).

When the Aryan element in a civilization gets diluted and fades away, the culture becomes stales and degenerates. Depending on the quality of the racial mixture, it can preserve itself in immobility virtually forever (like China) or it can decay into oblivion under the pressure of inferior blood (like the civilizations of the Middle East did).

The Sumerian, Assyrians, Persians, etc were at least partially Aryan, as per their language, their gods and social structure. Then they got overwhelmed by Semitic/Negroid blood (what we today call “Arab”) and disappeared.

Usually, their remaining Aryan elites moved out and immigrated into the next remaining civilization and bring with them their technical and spiritual knowledge (Babylonian elites moved into Egypt, then when Egypt was sinking, their elites moved into Greece, when Greece sank, their elites moved into Rome, etc.).

China also developed into a civilization once the seed of civilization was planted by small numbers of Aryan pioneers (Tocharians and others). And then they were smart enough to retain most of the useful things over the next thousands of years.

A modern day example of these phenomenon would be places like Hong Kong, Singapore or Taiwan, where once Aryan law (British Common Law) is implemented among a Chtonic race of good blood (ethnic Chinese) along with a tiny elite of Aryan managers/rulers/advisors, then that particular places flourishes. If you’d remove the Aryan element and Aryan laws, those places would in a few decades return to typical Chinese nepotism, corruption and top-down, hierarchical forms of organization.

▬▬▬ by Ahnenerbe @ https://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=1200509#post1200509